In fact ,if you do well and push back and start invading Germany the AI France will not help you because it can't walk div in a allied country. However, Yugoslavia is one of the three pillars on which the Eastern European settlement is built. Our victory in France is nearly complete. Next I declared war against france they had 400 divions compared to my 200 however they stacked them all on Maginot Line so I just held a fallback line while 140 divions went around the line and then capitulated them easily next was the UK not hard once you land in the UK you can take them out easy. Similarly, if Germany overthrows Hitler and opts to restore the Kaiser, France can raise an objection to the Return of Kaiser Wilhelm II (the AI will usually limit it's response based on how much tension Germany has generated); similar to Rhineland, the UK can opt to support or not support France, and Germany can either choose to continue ahead or compromise and instead install Wilhelm III as Kaiser; this will give them a similar debuff, but unlike the Rhineland Challenge Met debuff, none of Germany's focuses will be blocked. For more information, please see our The main problem with forming the EU as France is the inability to annex Belgium, Netherlands, and Luxembourg but this can be worked around by going down the French Entente line in the focus tree. Then me and my master, Poland-Romania joined the Allies but not the french. The French military completely disintegrated and the French government agreed to an armistice on the 25th of Juneeffectively surrendering the whole countryin a defeat which caused great astonishment to the rest of the world, as up until that point, France was a leading world power (both economically and militarily) that only 20 years earlier had won the Great War. If you spot a mistake then you are welcome to fix it. While still a major industrialized country, France has been left behind in terms of concentration of production capabilities. Military production is dwarfed by Germany (20 more factories) and Italy (11 more factories) and only on par with Belgium. After the defeat of the allied armies in the Netherlands, Belgium and Luxembourg in 1940 and the British evacuation of their forces from Dunkirk to England, the French front collapsed. They have no access to Oil so they need to import that. This is a community maintained wiki. There was an independent India that was in the Axis because of Germany that started justifying on Bhutan. If France elects to collaborate with Germany, Germany will be given the choice between establishing the Vichy Regime and warring France into the ground. France has a focus to unlock decisions concerning whether to intervene in the Spanish Civil War, or encourage non-interference by other parties. I had expected the UK to invite me to the Allies and, by extension, the war in Europe + Africa. Their support of the Ustae in Croatia was too much. If it weakens then France's security will suffer. If the UK supports France, France (and any puppets France has at the time) will join the Allies, and if the Germans refuse to back down, when France goes to war, a civil war will break out. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Try to annex all coastal states as the Allies will not annex any states that they cannot reach. Vichy France will start off with the following economy laws: Vichy France will also retain whatever industry and resources that end up within its zone of jurisdiction (the rest will end up under German occupation). Most unique focus trees include a monarchist path for their country, typically represented with the Non-Aligned party. France borders Belgium to the north, with the Ardenne forest making natural bulwark. They will retain control of southern France, while we are free to occupy the rest. You can always invade them anyway later, I like to take out Nationalist Spain as Italy right after the civil war sometimes, because nobody protects them. Lastly, it is also possible to take advantage of several random events to increase Communist support high enough and flip France to communism, allowing them to manually justify war goals on Belgium, Luxemburg and the Netherlands and annex them, then progress down the Democratic branch of the National Focus tree and drift back to Democracy and form the EU. Forget the past and look to new horizons. You really can't, you have to fight the allies in like 1940-1941 if you want to not play passive. Nationalist Spain. France is a major power in 1936, one of the winners of the Great War, and in control of a globe-spanning empire. The USA sometimes doesn't join in when controlled by an AI because someone at paradox removed the focus to give the US a war goal on Germany in the new focus tree, nor is there an event where the AI will always go for war with Japan or Germany. 5 glamscum 5 yr. ago France's colonial empire on the other hand, was either occupied by the United Kingdom and the Free French forces under general Charles de Gaulle in the small mountainous country of Andorra or conquered by the Axis powers (Primarily Italy and Japan). Messages 2.247; Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Next step is forming the European Union. [From.GetLeader] has refused to join the alliance, perhaps doubting our motives, or perhaps being concerned that aligning too closely with us would make them a target. #1 RagTagPig Aug 19, 2017 @ 8:32pm ohhhh I didnt know that about how theyll join an opposing faction. The Vichy regime would remain in place from its inception in 1940 to 1944, during which it attempted to carry out a series of social/societal transformation programs named the "National Revolution" and "National Regeneration". 'History has shown how much can be accomplished when our great nations stand side by side. Hi, let me introduce myself! Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Subscribe- https://www.youtube.com/c/ManiaGin?sub_confi. Communists and far-right extremist leagues are always ready to resort to violence to advance their political cause. Regardless of what Vichy France gets, it will usually only be left with a few leftover fragments of the previous french military and will thus have to rebuild it. Good. So I embarked on a five year mission of destroying every allied nation. With the regime in Berlin ratcheting up the tension over the border between them and Yugoslavia, the British have made the decision to stand against German aggression. The UK is holding Egypt. By default, they can only intervene on the side of the Republicans, but should they change ideologies, France can instead opt to intervene on the side of the Nationalists, the Carlists, the Falangists, or the Communists. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Ruling party is Democratic, Has completed focus Buy Time But then the turkey player kicked Greece out of faction so the does not end. The battle is lost. Then WW2 kicked off Poland-Romania did not accept the ultimatum, the Germany player was kind of angry about it but in a civilised manner. If they opt to interfere, however, they will unlock a series of decisions - said decisions will boost war support; after getting war support to a certain level, France can opt to intervene directly in the Spanish Civil War. On April 1st, 1937, with WT at 28%, well below the 50% threshold for them to autojoin the allies and almost 7 months before they could join by focus.they out of nowhere join the allies, dragging the UK into my war. Reach 1948 as France without capitulating or surrendering. Is not in a faction with United Kingdom. The most straightforward approach would be to first neutralize Italy by launching naval invasions to encircle and destroy their troops before marching on Rome. Government type: Non-Aligned, Despotic. While reforms are needed and welcome, the nation is divided and getting drawn into a conflict would put it at great risk. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. We can count on their full support in the turbulent times ahead. However, poor naval infrastructure and low shipbuilding priority means that constructing a large modern fleet is not easy, and in fact can often be counter-productive in that it denies vital raw materials from tank and motorized production. Any time a country that is part of a faction attacks another country, the defending country will join an opposing faction. Dozens of runs where this early war against France goes off without a hitch, I change one thing, one insignificant thing and out of nowhere it all goes to hell. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Just hold the magniot line and invade france trough Italy or go after Benelux. French political parties are increasingly calling for the establishment of a provisional government and a general election. . Most workers have now realized that their unreasonable demands will not be met. Just restart and hope this doesn' happen again or you could be a boss and beat both of them I guess lol. Wait for Germany to capitulate all the minors on the mainland before justifying on an axis member and joining the war. We must look at the state our country and not accept, but change the outcome of this war. Start a game with an Allies nation that is not France (UK would be a good choice) In 1939, when the Germany invade Belgium, watch how France AI can't sent div to cross the border to stall German advance. [From.GetLeader] approves of our efforts and has accepted our invitation to an alliance. If allied with the United Kingdom (which can annex all of its dominions and even the United States to form the Imperial Federation), these two titans can easily become the dominant superpowers of the post-war world order. A way for Vichy to become the "legitimate" France and even potentially join the Allies; A way to have Free France gain territories that were assigned to Vichy France when the whole thing was created, without bringing them into the war . How should we respond? Japanese forces are positioned along the borders of our colony in Indochina, and they are demanding total access to our bases and facilities! The problem with fielding a modern army will be expanding France's production base, which is both extremely limited and faced with the prospect of crippling manpower shortages in the very near future in 1936. I'm guessing they did their focus ahistorically by chance. This page was last edited on 31 July 2022, at 13:58. We don't know what to expect these following months, but we will face it together! Vichy France will gain control of a portion of the French forces but it is not possible to predict what divisions Vichy France will get. If Germany agrees to establish the Vichy Regime (which they most likely will), France will be split into Free France and Vichy France. This is a community maintained wiki. Germany lost i got 2/3 of Austria and then the Allies went to greece and Turkey to kill them. As Fascist France or Vichy France, occupy all of Great Britain. This national spirit can be removed though the national focus tree. Even now, a new joint government is being formed in London. on Paradox technology, Legal ohhhh I didnt know that about how theyll join an opposing faction. In some edge cases, for example if the UK goes non-historical, the legitimate democractic allies faction leader may shift to another nation (such as Canada). Disjointed Government, Political Violence and Inefficient Economy can possibly be removed by completing National Focuses in the Popular Front/National Bloc branch. Gets event Protests descend into violence, Has completed focus Confirm Eastern Commitments r/hoi4. Germany lost i got 2/3 of Austria and then the Allies went to greece and Turkey to kill them. are there anyways to stop france from joining the allies . Once created, Vichy France will find itself in control of southern Metropolitan France as well as most of France's colonial empire. Interestingly, the way these decisions are coded make it entirely possible for a Fascist France to intervene on the side of Republican Spain and also drag the Axis in. The French national focus tree can be divided into 5 branches and 7 sub-branches: France starts with very good tanks, having unlocked 2 levels of the light tanks tree. The Panzers then drovewithout waiting for infantry to secure their supply linesthrough France to the English Channel, surrounding the bulk of the Allied forces which had been sent to Belgium's border with Germany aiming to deny them room for mobile warfare and overconfident that their main thrust would be through Belgium as in WWI's Schlieffen Plan. 2019, https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/index.php?title=Vichy_France&oldid=60550, Countries with unique National Focus trees, Articles with potentially outdated tables, Play Even off of historical, Britain, France, and Czechoslovakia have a >90% chance to let Germany have the Sudentenland. As for the military, Vichy France's military situation is a bit unpredictable, as Vichy France is only created if France is capitulated by Germany, which will cause the majority of the French military to be dismantled. Elements within the government want an armistice with Germany, but many officers wish to continue the struggle from Britain.Certain members of the British War Cabinet have suggested another option - a merger of France and Great Britain into a single nation, which will fight on until all of France has been liberated. Civilian to Military Factory conversion cost: This page was last edited on 23 February 2023, at 01:36. Cookie Notice Do it earlier, try and stay below 25% if I am not wrong. Turn off historical and hope they form little entente. ( they discussed it on chat) Turkey capped and the Turkey player started raging. Privacy Policy. Francoist Spain, or Nationalist Spain, is an authoritarian regime that came to power in 1939, historically after beating Republican Spain in the Spanish Civil War. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). Note that once you go to war with Germany, you'll have to recall those volunteers, so after the Carlists Spawn, delete your existing tank volunteers and immediately send some new ones to Carlist Spain (at the start of the game, France starts with 6 tank Divisions - convert all of these to the template with motorized, and you'll have several good divisions on your hands), and use them to clean up as much of the other factions as possible before going to war with the nations required for the EU. Their heartland in Europe is rich; almost half of Africa is under their control, and they have colonies in Indochina, Syria, and Guyana, not to mention direct control of islands in all the oceans of the world. While weakened, if properly played, Vichy France is still capable of digging itself out of this morass and then either joining the Axis as an equal to Germany after asking them to end the occupation, defecting to the Allies and uniting with Free France, or taking a third option and regaining their honor by defeating Germany by themselves. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Press J to jump to the feed. 'While we have enjoyed good relations in the past, we cannot risk an escalation of the conflicts across the channel. Note that I said this behavior is specific to the leader of the Allies or its inherited faction, and not UK in particular. This is a list of all France's events (from /Hearts of Iron IV/events/France.txt). The state of French politics is far from stable. They will eventually join the allies by 1941-42 if youre playing historical AI. Note that you can still form the Kingdom of Franco-Spain if Carlist Spain did not win, provided that they did spawn (as you can liberate Spain to them in the peace deal), although doing so will lock you out of gaining cores on any Portuguese states. Plans for the extension of the Maginot Line all the way to the English Channel have been finished, and construction orders placed. France is dominated by flat, arable land in the Northwest and forest and highland in the center. Through the focus "The Blum-Violette Proposal", France can gain cores on Northern Algeria. Should prove that we are the greater power and risk fighting alone? 2019, https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/index.php?title=France&oldid=60463, Countries with unique National Focus trees, Articles with potentially outdated sections, Articles with potentially outdated tables, Play I initially sent volunteers to the democratic France. Peace must always be the goal of any democratic nation. >_>. With the collapse of the Third Republic and the refusal of the German government to offer an Armistice, it must fall to fresh leadership to continue the fight from the colonies. on Paradox technology, Legal We are in the enviable position of having very low unemployment, partially because of the massive bloodshed of the Great War. If France is capitulated by a non-democratic Germany and Germany is still at war with another major in the same faction as France, Germany can opt to set up an unofficial government in France - what government this is will depend on what ideology Germany is at the time. Interactive corporate website. We have begun work on improving the fortifications of the Alpine Line. (Hidden) AI values for the Spanish Civil War, https://hoi4.paradoxwikis.com/index.php?title=French_events&oldid=54247, Play France has, a unique potential to gain cores on The Netherlands, Belgium, Spain, Portugal, Brazil, Germany, and Italy through incredible luck. With each passing day workers are caving and return to the factories. The Prussian Menace was a nightmare. If Germany goes down it's historic tree, France can opt to mobilize in response to the remilitarization of the Rhineland (taking this decision has a steep cost in political power and stability; note that they can only object if Germany completes the Focus Rhineland; if Germany remilitarizes the Rhineland by going to war, France cannot object). What I just did was go to war with poland instantly and then stacked against the Soviet Union. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Hearts of Iron IV by Paradox Development Studio. All rights reserved. A place to share content, ask questions and/or talk about the grand strategy game Hearts of Iron IV by Paradox Development Studio. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Privacy Policy. The minute they finished the great purge I declared war since it gives them organization. Ruling party is Fascist, Has completed focus Form the Popular Front. Once Vichy France completes its National Focus Tree, however, they will regain control of all of Metropolitan France with the exception of Alsace-Lorraine and Savoy, which will be annexed by Germany and Italy, respectively. And somehow Poland-Romania started a war against the Soviet Union and I thanked them for it and quit the game. Note that Japan invading China increases WT quite a bit so if you are playing historical, plan for that. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. For more information, please see our By selecting this Design Company it will permanently affect capabilities on all equipment researched while they are hired. If Germany is Fascist, they will establish Vichy France. Threatened with annihilation, the British evacuated their expeditionary forces and what Allied units they could until Dunkirk fell. Diplomacy [edit | edit source]. Well, not probably, presumably---I haven't tried it. France can form the European Union if Democratic, and if they have , can also form the Kingdom of Franco-Spain if they go Legitimist and Spain also goes Carlist (on historical, the Carlists will almost never spawn if the player is not in charge of Spain and will only spawn on historical if Franco does not secure the North in time; unlike with Spain, France can form the Kingdom of Franco-Spain even if Spain has a different king) - if Spain was to obtain any other cores, France would also gain said cores (Gibraltar if the UK decolonizes or Spain forms Iberia, and any Portuguese cores gained by Spain as a result of forming Iberia - this can include Brazil, Angola, and Mozambique if Portugal was able to core those territories). Whilst few would doubt that Monsieur Daladier has been a fine prime minister, he simply could not contend with the extraordinary set of circumstances in which France has found herself. In a historical scenario, Italy fulfills a support role to the German Reich, allowing the Axis to contest control of the Mediterranean and North Africa. If you have land forts around level 6 or higher then the Axis nations will be very hesitant to assault your positions and you can focus on taking down Italy. I got pissed and console annexed the UK. Press J to jump to the feed. France both borders the Mediterranean Sea to the south, the English channel to the Northwest and the Bay of Biscay to the west. Faction: Neutral. He became a senior analyst at age 26 at Alfa-Bank, Russia's largest private bank, before a brief spell getting his master's of finance at the University of London. It became a three way front, Allies attacking Germany and soviet union, Italy does not join the axis. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. As with her tanks, France begins the game with modern naval technology, such as 1936 BB, DD and SS techs and two unique designs: La Fantasque, a destroyer model with tier 3 (1940) engines, and the Surcouf Class submarine with 3 custom slots. But that also depends on world tension and the situation of the game. In La Rsistance, Vichy France starts off as independent and is initially not part of any faction. He was so weak that I guerenteed him as a joke and he thanked me for it. But then the turkey player kicked Greece out of faction so the does not end. Tho if they hate you they'll be eager instead. The HOI4 Adoriasim SIG is a meta group aiming to create a hoi4 mod out of Adoria with its extensive in sim and pre-sim lore. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Once you get the news article detailing that their has been a royal marriage between Brazil and Portugal you can move on. In an effort to strengthen the Little Entente - Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia and Romania - and contain the possible resurgence of aggressive expansionism on part of the old Central Powers, France has requested that we join them in an alliance aiming to bring these nations together. In the following months, the French government was extensively reorganized. Somewhat historical, like by 1 or so. The only thing I did differently was I tried out superior firepower and all leg infantry rather than mobile warfare and tanks. Feel that something is missing in this article? Tho if they hate you they'll be eager instead. On April 1st, 1937, with WT at 28%, well below the 50% threshold for them to autojoin the allies and almost 7 months before they could join by focusthey out of nowhere join the allies, dragging the UK into my war. Barbarossa has not kicked off yet. The situation in France is dire. Then strangely, the Italy player joined the Allies too and the polish, hungarians the British and their puppets started gangbanging Germany. Also Hiter is back in charge of The Fourth Reich and re-anshlussed Austria for some reason via the focus. For the first step, in forming the super Kingdom of Franco-Spain, you must put on non-historical focuses, and restart saves until Portugal does its focus Estado Novo. If a nation is being justified upon, the allies AI will try to lay a guarantee on it if it can. Went and took out british Raj next to free up my eastrn allies. On the other hand, we don't exactly have the means to fight them on this issue. Gets event Protests descend into violence, Has completed focus Utilize the Leagues I go after a country then immediatly after I declare war they join the comminterm and now im at war with russia and then I get instantly rekt. Our industry will be back to full capacity and it is unlikely we will have strikes anytime soon. France, along with the United Kingdom, guaranteed the independence of Poland prior to its invasion by Germany. If the capital is in neither of the states Ile de France (16) or New Caledonia (635) and is controlling New Caledonia (635): Changes the capital state to New Caledonia (635), Creates a dynamic country originating from. Questions, Paradox Following the German decision to grant Vichy lands to Italy the Syrian administration has chosen to join our side. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Their heartland in Europe is rich; almost half of Africa is under their control, and they have colonies in Indochina, Syria, and Guyana, not to mention direct control of islands in all the oceans of the world. This thread is archived . PDXCON . When formed, Vichy France starts off with the following national spirit. After the crushing and humiliating defeat, Germany and Italy annexed territories of eastern France (equivalent to the states of Alsace-Lorraine, Nord-Pas-de-Calais, Savoy, Nice and Corsica in-game) while the rest of metropolitan France was placed under the jurisdiction of Vichy France, a German client state led by Marshal Philippe Ptain with its de facto capital in the French town of Vichy.